A Young Team? Not Really True For The Cavs

The Cleveland Cavaliers made news this week when they signed C Jarrett Allen to a contract extension. Earlier this summer, they signed Evan Mobley to a second contract, meaning every member of the so called “Core 4” are signed for the long term.

And everyone is aware that Donovan Mitchell re-upped with the franchise on a three year deal for a ton of cash.

That doesn’t mean none of the contracts are tradeable, but we digress. Broadcaster Jim Rome used to say players can’t “self-gloss”. meaning they shouldn’t give themselves a nickname, and we feel this way about the “Core 4”.

Heck, former Cavs’ GM Jim Paxson somehow got rid of Shawn Kemp’s bloated contract, so it is possible.

The Cavs organization has started calling them that, and our problem is they haven’t accomplished enough to earn that moniker. Winning one playoff series simply doesn’t do it.

And the organization is paying them a whole lot of cash to a group that again, has never advanced beyond the second round of the NBA playoffs.

Another thing that concerns us about the Cavs’ front office is their insistence the team is young. The reality is Cleveland is 16th in the NBA in the average age of the players, ranking between Atlanta and Sacramento with the roster averaging 26.2 years of age.

Two playoff teams rank in the top 10 youngest rosters: Oklahoma City is 2nd at 23.4 years old, and the team Cleveland defeated in the first round, Orlando is 4th at 24.0. That’s why fans and the front office should be concerned about finishing in the top four this upcoming season. Orlando will no doubt improve.

The Cavs should also worry about Indiana passing them in the standings, as the Pacers are the 11th youngest squad and advanced to the Eastern Conference finals last season.

Of the ten oldest rosters in the league, all but Chicago had winning records a year ago, but none of the teams in that group would be considered “up and coming” because of their age.

Cleveland has only six players born after the turn of the century and of that group, the only ones who get significant playing time are Mobley and Darius Garland. Mobley is beginning his fourth season, and Garland is entering his sixth.

Everyone is expecting Mobley to make a leap at some point and without a doubt he has improved, but in his first three seasons, his per game averages in points have been 15.0, 16.2, and 15.7, and his rebounds have been 8.3, 9.0, and 9.4.

If he doesn’t show dramatic improvement this season, we fear this is what he is, a very good, solid player, but not an all-star.

Many people say he can’t get better because of the presence of Allen, and we will agree to a point. We will see how new coach Kenny Atkinson handles the duo offensively before saying having them both on the floor doesn’t work.

Garland’s stats tumbled last year, but we would attribute that to injuries, but he’s also now been in the league for five seasons. How many players make a big leap in performance after five years?

And of course, we also wonder about the fit between him and Donovan Mitchell. And when we say that, we aren’t insulted anyone’s talent, but in basketball, the pieces have to fit together.

In our minds, this is another reason the Cavs should not run it back in 2024-25. They aren’t a young team. At this point, the players are who they are.

Don’t believe the young team stuff spouted by Koby Altman and his staff. It’s a myth.

Altman All In On Blaming The Coaching

Cleveland Cavaliers’ president of basketball operations Koby Altman is apparently using the ultimate “cover you a**” move this off-season.

He is putting all of the blame for a second round exit in the playoffs on J.B. Bickerstaff. While he hasn’t said this publicly, that he has made no moves so far this summer reflects this.

Apparently, he believes Kenny Atkinson will fix the problems the wine and gold had last season.

We guess this means Atkinson has the ability to make players grow, because that’s one of the problems the current roster has. The simply aren’t big enough. They still have two guards who are under 6’3″ and a caste of small forwards who are 6’6″ and shorter.

At the risk of being called negative (we prefer realistic in this case), the Cavs were fortunate to get past Orlando in the first round. Despite virtually no playoff experience, Cleveland had its hands full with the bigger Magic squad.

It took a yeoman effort from Donovan Mitchell to win. Mitchell averaged 28.7 points, 5 rebounds and 4.5 assists per game in the series, and outside of Jarrett Allen, who only played the first four games, 17.0 PPG, no one else on the Cavs scored even 15 points per contest in the series.

In the deciding seventh game, Mitchell scored 39 points with 9 boards and 5 dimes. The next best scorer? Caris LeVert with 15 points.

It seems Altman has done what many first-time executives have done, and that is fall in love with the players he has drafted. He looks at all the things that those players could do to cause them to draft them and doesn’t look at how they fit together or how those talents translate to the NBA game.

To be fair, we have been around coaches who are just the opposite, they love players from afar only to grow to dislike them as players when they actually have to coach them. It does work both ways.

Let us say here that we love the hire of Atkinson. He was our first choice because of what he accomplished with the Nets. But this isn’t the college game. Coaching doesn’t make that much of a difference in the NBA in terms of scheming.

How many great NBA coaches are there? Yes, there’s Erik Spoelstra and Gregg Popovich, but how many others?

The best executives can look at the talent assembled and realize what and who fits and who doesn’t. He can see a problem like a lack of size and fix that problem. That’s what Altman needs to do.

This isn’t to say Altman can’t do a good job, but he does have to be open to seeing the warts. Mitchell and Darius Garland aren’t bad players, but they don’t seem to bring out the best in each other.

And that’s alright. But now is the time to fix it.

Look, Altman sped up the progression of this roster when he traded for Mitchell, a perennial all-star. You don’t do that and then wait for an incremental improvement.

However, since he traded for Mitchell, his only additions to the roster were free agents Max Strus and Georges Niang, three-point shooters. We felt Strus was not as good of a shooter (he isn’t) as Altman thought, and Niang is pretty much a one-dimensional player, although we do think he is better than what he showed in the playoffs.

There is still plenty of time for Altman to upgrade this roster. But he can’t keep looking at the players he selected and think coaching did them in.

Cavs Still Haven’t Made A Move

Cavaliers’ president of basketball operations Koby Altman has said it a number of times since the season ended with a playoff loss in five games to the Boston Celtics in the Eastern Conference semi-finals.

He has said he wants the Cavs to run it back with the same core players (the so called “Core 4”) for the 2024-25 season with a new coach in Kenny Atkinson. And after the draft and the beginning of the free agent period, he has done just that, stand pat.

Yes, the team’s perennial all-star, Donovan Mitchell, signed a three-year extension last week, meaning he could be here for four more years, but that’s the extent of the club’s transactions so far this summer.

We guess Altman wasn’t using “GM speak” in talking about the current roster.

If that’s going to be the case, it puts a lot of pressure on new coach Kenny Atkinson, because his hiring looks to be the only reason the current roster will get better, outside of the natural growth of young players.

Cleveland likes to talk about the youth of their roster, but really the only player with the potential to make a substantial leap in performance is Evan Mobley, who will be in his fourth year in the NBA. Yes, Darius Garland will turn 25 during the new season, but he has been in the league for five seasons.

How many players improve their performance greatly after they’ve been in the NBA five years?

And Kenny Atkinson is a coach, not a magician. He can put players in situations where they can succeed more, but he’s not going to make Evan Mobley a great outside shooter and he’s not going to make Darius Garland less turnover prone.

Nor is he going to make a backcourt with two smaller guards along with a small forward who is 6’5″ a defensive force.

We understand the Cavs didn’t make the trade for Mitchell until September 1st, so there is plenty of time before training camp starts to improve the roster. However, virtually every team in the league has made moves since the playoffs ended.

Outside of drafting Jaylon Tyson, Cleveland has been idle.

We have seen reports that the organization is waiting for a decision on Isaac Okoro’s contract status and if that’s true, it’s pretty disturbing. Okoro is a very good defender who is limited offensively and he’s only 6’5″.

If he’s holding up potential moves for the Cavs, well…

The current regime seems to be looking at the incremental improvement from non-playoff team to play-in tournament team to lose in the first round to winning in the first round and thinking they should stay the course.

We believe in the philosophy of every move a team makes should be gearing towards winning a championship. Falling short of that goal is a failure. Now, that doesn’t mean you can’t look at progress and think we are getting closer to the goal though.

Perhaps a big move will come in the next couple of weeks. But at the end of the playoffs (and last year for that matter), we have felt the Cavaliers needed to add size at guard and small forward, and also get a solid backup for Jarrett Allen and Mobley.

And remember, Altman sped up the winning process when he traded for Mitchell.

We don’t think they can contend for a title without more size. The front office seems to think differently.

Are Cavs Overrating Their Roster?

For many years after Andrew Berry took over as Browns’ GM, people were noting that he didn’t cut any of the players he drafted. Part of that was when he got the job, the Browns weren’t very good, but it is understandable that if you draft a player, you see the reasons you chose him.

Therefore, you give them the benefit of the doubt.

On the other hand, we have been around coaches who love players from afar, and if and when they get them on their team, all they see are the warts.

So, we understand that Koby Altman has a certain fondness for the players he has brought into the Cavaliers’ organization. But we also think it’s fair to ask if he can evaluate them without bias.

In Kenny Atkinson’s introductory press conference, the new coach referred to coaching “four all-stars”. We bristled at that.

First, only three of the current Cavaliers have made an all-star team: Donovan Mitchell, Darius Garland, and Jarrett Allen. Despite the organization’s wishes for Evan Mobley, who Altman picked with the third overall pick, he has not made one.

And while technically, Garland and Allen have made the team, they made it once, and they made it during the 2021-22 season, which will be three seasons ago when the new season starts.

Garland was comparable to his all-star season the following year, but last year, injuries caused his numbers to drop. And you know how we feel about starting two smaller guards and how it affects things defensively.

Allen was an injury add on in 2022 but was in the discussion to make it to the mid-season classic last year when he averaged a career high in points at 16.5 per game.

Mitchell is an all-star, making the team five times. It may be semantics, but Garland and Allen are players who made an all-star team, we would not consider them perennials.

The elephant in the room is Mobley. We know everyone is high on him, but it is fair to point out his progress has been slow. He averaged 15 points and 8.3 rebounds as a rookie, and although his shooting has improved from 50.8% as a first-year player to 58% last season, his scoring went from 15.0 to 16.2 to 15.7.

Granted, some of that is due to his role (or lack of one) in the offense. The player taken right after him, Scottie Barnes averaged 15.3 a game in his rookie season and 19.9 last year.

What if Mobley is just a real good player, an excellent defender, but not quite an all-star level player?

It wouldn’t mean writing him off, if he can score 18 points, grab 10 rebounds, block a couple of shots in addition to playing excellent defense, that’s something any coach can work with. But it’s not what many expected after his first year.

The Eastern Conference got better since the playoffs ended. Philadelphia signed Paul George. The Knicks swung a trade for Mikal Bridges. Indiana gained valuable playoff experience.

The Cavs need to get better and although we like Kenny Atkinson, we don’t think that’s enough. The off-season has just begun, but hopefully Altman can be truthful with himself about the roster he has built.

That’s a trait the best executives have.

Cavs Hire Kenny Atkinson. Our Thoughts

The Cleveland Cavaliers have a new head coach, hiring Golden State assistant Kenny Atkinson to replace J.B. Bickerstaff. We also say we cannot judge a coaching hire until the person actually coaches games, but we like the hire.

Atkinson first got our attention when the Cavs acquired the Nets’ first round pick in the Kyrie Irving deal. The Nets were coming off a 20-62 season under Atkinson in 2016-17, so the Nets’ pick looked to have potential to have a very good chance to finish high in the lottery.

This was a Nets’ team led by DeMarre Carroll, Allen Crabbe, Spencer Dinwiddie. And yes, Caris LeVert and Jarrett Allen were on that squad as well. Brooklyn finished 12th in the Eastern Conference at 28-54 and as we all know by now, Cleveland got the 8th pick in the draft, not the top five selection that was hoped for.

The following season, he guided the Nets to the playoffs with a 42-40 record, losing in a five-game series to Philadelphia, who were led by Joel Embiid, Jimmy Butler, and Ben Simmons (ironically, new Laker coach J.J. Redick was also on the Sixers’ roster).

Brooklyn stole game one on the road behind D’Angelo Russell’s 26 points and LeVert chipped in with 23.

The following season, the Nets and Atkinson parted ways during the truncated pandemic season after he guided Brooklyn to a 28-34 record. Jacque Vaughn finished the year 7-3 and was swept in the first round of the playoffs by Toronto.

We went through this history because from afar Atkinson always seemed to get the most out of his roster, a good trait for any coach.

Atkinson was offered the Charlotte head coaching position following the 2022 season, and he took it, but then had second thoughts and settled for an assistants’ job with Golden State. Based on the mess the Hornets’ organization is, we thought he took the Warriors’ job as the heir apparent to Steve Kerr. Obviously, Kerr is still there.

There have been attempts on other sites to quantify Atkinson’s coaching style and philosophy, but we will not attempt that. The essence of coaching is looking at the talent at hand and getting the most out of the players. So, we will trust that his coaching philosophy with the Cavs will be based on having players do what they do best.

We also like that Atkinson has been a head coach before and then went and worked with another organization, especially a successful one like Golden State (like it or not, they are successful). Good coaches also learn and absorb things by working with players and also observation.

Many successful people learn from doing a job and as they do it more, they get better at doing it.

The new coach likes ball movement on offense, and we would hope he isn’t as dependent on the pick and roll as Bickerstaff was. As far as anything else goes, we will wait until we see the results.

And hopefully, the front office has discussions with Atkinson and what kind of team he wants, and is not saying here’s the roster, win with it. As we have been saying, the Cavs’ problem wasn’t just the coach. The make-up of the roster isn’t that of other contending teams.

We guess we will know more about the next edition of the Cavs in a few weeks.

Cavs Running It Back? Bad Idea

With the NBA Finals soon to be over, the NBA crazy time will start very quickly. The draft will occur at the end of the month, followed by the free agency period where trades will occur.

In his post-season press conference, Cavs’ president of basketball operations Koby Altman made comments alluding to the wine and gold’s “Core 4”, and his desire to keep them together.

After all, his supporters will say, the Cavaliers have made progress in each of the last three seasons, going from making the “play-in” tournament and losing to getting into a seven game series to winning a first-round match up.

While all that is true, it can also be true to realize that might be the ceiling for this group. And really, isn’t that what Altman is paid to determine.

The first thing for Altman to decide is who will be the new head coach. It seems like it is down to three candidates: James Borrego, Kenny Atkinson, and Chris Quinn. We would have no issue with either of them.

Our only issue with Quinn would be he is the first lieutenant to Erik Spoelstra, the league’s best coach. Sometimes, these guys try to be their mentor, and since they aren’t that guy, it doesn’t work.

The people who think staying the course with the Cavs led by Donovan Mitchell, Darius Garland, Evan Mobley, and Jarrett Allen, usually are thinking about it from (surprise!) the offensive end of the floor. However, we say it all the time, basketball isn’t just about scoring points.

Our feeling continues to be Cleveland cannot continue with the small backcourt because Mitchell and Garland do not complement each other, but also because it is not effective from a defensive standpoint. So many contending teams have size at the guard position, and the Cavaliers don’t.

That puts them at a disadvantage.

The other thing that bothers us is the constant talk of having to move Jarrett Allen. We get it, “you can’t win with two non-shooting bigs”, that’s the argument, correct? But what we find difficult to fathom is how you get better by trading your second-best player, and that’s what Allen was this past season.

He averaged 16.5 points and 10.5 boards per night, shooting 63.4% from the floor. If you could trade Allen for a player who has a chance at being your best player, then yes, you can trade him. We doubt that would be the case.

And yesterday, it was reported that Mitchell doesn’t want Allen moved, and that will have weight within the organization.

As for Mobley’s “dominant” series vs. Boston in the second round, need we remind everyone he didn’t do this against Joel Embiid, Bam Adebayo, or even Kristaps Porzingis, he did it against 37-year-old Al Horford, a solid pro, but not a player who should be giving a player like Mobley fits.

Also, trading Allen (or Mobley for that matter) would be removing one of the few players with size on the roster. We understand a big man would come back in any deal, but that player likely wouldn’t be as skilled.

And Cleveland needs to add size, not get smaller. That’s for sure.

If Altman can add a slew of wings in the 6’7″ to 6’9″ range and add another big man to back up Allen and Mobley without giving up one of his core players, then great. We just don’t think that’s possible.

You’re A Candidate, You’re A Candidate…Cavs Coaching Search

By now, perhaps you too have received a request by the Cleveland Cavaliers to interview for their head coaching job. The Cavs have at least five or six candidates to date that they have received permission to interview.

That seems like a lot, particularly because when you made the decision to fire J. B. Bickerstaff, you would think they had at least one or two people in mind to take the job. That doesn’t seem the case.

We also wonder if there are so many candidates because they are looking for someone whose idea for the team is the same as Koby Altman’s, and that may be difficult to find.

We would think most coaches would look at the Cavaliers’ roster and say it will be very difficult to win in the playoffs with two small guards, two solid big men, and a bunch of undersized wings.

Our personal position is we would like someone with previous NBA head coaching experience. On the other hand, we don’t want a retread either. We consider the latter to be someone who has moved around the league from team to team, like a Doc Rivers or a Nate McMillan.

But someone who has had one job deserves a second chance. Isn’t everyone better the second time they do something? We have mentioned previously that we like Kenny Atkinson, who went 118-190 in four seasons with Brooklyn, and took them to the playoffs in one season.

James Borrego seems to be a solid candidate as well, after an interim gig with Orlando in 2014-15, he guided Charlotte for four seasons, the last one resulting in a 43-39 record, which you would think they would initiate statue building instead of getting a pink slip.

One of the candidates mentioned is troubling to us, and that would be Johnnie Bryant, reportedly someone with a close relationship with Donovan Mitchell. In our opinion, that would be a colossal mistake.

What happens if the Cavs aren’t winning with Bryant at the helm? Is the organization stuck with him because Mitchell likes him?

Bryant has no track record of being a head coach in the NBA. Could he lay the hammer down on Mitchell if need be? That’s a tough one because Mitchell would be the guy who got him the gig.

It also puts Mitchell in an imposing position within the organization, and frankly, he’s an excellent player, top 20 at least in the league right now, but he hasn’t earned that kind of gravitas.

It has been reported that Mitchell didn’t like the talk that he wanted Bickerstaff out, so does he want the pressure of being the guy who hired the next coach too?

If we were a candidate for the job, we would want to remake the roster to what currently works in the NBA, which means adding size, and we would want to know if the front office is amenable to doing that.

Especially if you are someone who didn’t play in the league and is hoping for a second chance to sit in the first chair. There aren’t many coaches who get a third chance without great success prior (see Mike Budenholzer).

Hopefully, this is Altman doing a thorough job in canvasing rather that an exercise in seeing who agrees with him.

We use this comment a lot in the world of sports: “The wise man knows what he doesn’t know”. We hope that doesn’t apply here.