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Have The Guardians Gotten A Bit Stale?

There is no question that the time since Jacobs/Progressive Field opened in 1994 has been the golden age of Cleveland baseball. Yes, there was that period of when Bill Veeck owned the team and the GM tenure of Hank Greenberg from 1947-1959 where the Indians went to two World Series and won the last one for the franchise in 1948.

Since 1991, the franchise has basically had three men in charge of the baseball operations. John Hart was hired by Hank Peters in 1989 as a scout and assumed the GM duties in 1991 and remained in that spot until 2001. Mark Shapiro took over and was in that spot until 2010, when he moved to team president and promoted Chris Antonetti.

Antonetti became the president of baseball operations in 2015, and Mike Chernoff was promoted to the GM spot then. Really, the franchise has had three people running the baseball team on the field since ’91. That’s 35 years.

Going further, the promotions all came from within. Shapiro was hired by Hart in ’91, became Director of Player Development, and then assistant GM before taking over in ’01. Antonetti has worked for the team since 1999 and was named Shapiro’s successor in 2010.

Chernoff was hired as an intern in 2003 while still enrolled at Princeton, and rose through the organization becoming assistant GM under Antonetti in ’10.

There have been people hired from outside in various positions, but really, the franchise hasn’t hired anyone outside of the organization in a top leadership position in the front office in 37 years. An era where they have won three American League pennants, the same number they won from 1901-1994.

Stability is a good thing. That’s one way to look at it.

Another way to look at it has it become stale.

We know about the recent success of the franchise. Since Antonetti was put in charge, the Guardians have made eight playoff appearances and went to the World Series in 2016. Unfortunately, they haven’t built on that success, winning just one playoff series (the 2024 Division Series) since.

Look, we understand the executives, particularly Antonetti and Chernoff, have been hampered by the lack of financial support by the ownership, but that is a story for another time. The biggest move from outside the organization was the hiring of Terry Francona as skipper following the 2012 season.

Francona brought some outside thoughts to the organization, and he might be the last person to do that with this group.

After the World Series appearance in ’16, the ownership ponied up some cash (perhaps carried away with the excitement) and signed slugger Edwin Encarnacion as a free agent. That’s the last large signing of a player from outside.

Last season, the team finished with one of the worst offenses in the sport and still made the playoffs. The front office didn’t go out and get any bats in trades or free agency, instead saying they wanted to give their young hitters a chance. The Guardians still rank among the worst teams in baseball in scoring.

They seem to be unable to make judgments on their own prospects, holding on to some of them until all the value is sapped from them and thus, have no value to other teams on the trade market.

They seem to overvalue defense, sacrificing offense at times, when the minor leagues are full of players who have good gloves but cannot hit.

Even their production on television is worn, seemingly turned into a group of “yes men” continually telling viewers how great everything is, which is an insult to the people who understand the game a bit.

Maybe the Guardians will duplicate last year and go on a run to make the playoffs again, but it doesn’t seem likely. And maybe the current organization will not have to make any tough decisions until 2028 because of an impending lockout next year.

Maybe you don’t have to have a catcher who cannot contribute offensively because defense and handling the pitching staff is ultra important.

This era of Cleveland baseball has been great for a long time, and it can continue, but it seems to need a jolt, some fresh ideas. Perhaps the last two months are a blip on the radar, but it could also be the same old ideas are lost in a world of change.

Trading Good Players, Claiming Not To Have Money Is Nothing New In Cleveland Baseball

We have often said how long we have been a fan of the Cleveland Guardians, we go back to the mid 1960s and the days of Sam McDowell, Max Alvis, Rocky Colavito, and Leon Wagner. 

And much like today, those teams were built around pitching while scoring runs was definitely a struggle. 

It also dawned on us that for most of the 58 years we have been a fan of Cleveland baseball teams, they haven’t been free with a dollar bill. 

Early on in my fandom, it was a terrible park to watch baseball and mediocre teams that drove attendance down. The Indians didn’t draw one million fans from 1959, when they finished 2nd in the American League to 1974, when they were in contention into August. 

Their best record in that span was in ’65 when they went 87-75. 

Of course, the National Pastime as a sport wasn’t in the great position it is today. There was one national telecast of baseball each week, and as for local TV, maybe as many as 40 games were broadcast on a local station in a season. 

The financial situation led to trading many good, young players such as Graig Nettles, Chris Chambliss, Buddy Bell, Dennis Eckersley, Len Barker and others, usually for prospects. Does this sound familiar to anyone?

This went on until the Jacobs Brothers, Richard and David, bought the team from the estate of Steve O’Neill in 1986. The new owners immediately saw the terrible lease situation the team was in with The Stadium Corporation, run by Browns’ owner Art Modell, and set out to get their own ballpark.

When then Jacobs Field opened in 1994, fans flocked toward the new building in record numbers. Of course, it helped when the Indians were good for the first time since the late 50’s, and the sellout streak and more network television cash allowed Cleveland to be a factor in free agency, signing players like Eddie Murray, Dennis Martinez, Orel Hershiser, Roberto Alomar, and Jack McDowell.

Most of them helped the team reach two World Series and qualify for the post-season in six out of seven seasons.

Cleveland baseball attendance figures reached the three million mark from 1995 to 2001 and hit 2.6 million in 2002 when the team dipped below the .500 plateau. 

Ironically (or not perhaps), the Jacobs family sold the team to the Dolan family at the end of the 1999 season. 

Outside of that stretch when Jacobs Field opened until the sale of the team to the current owners, the folks in charge of running the operation have told us they cannot compete financially.

However, Progressive Field is being renovated, updated if you will, but it is still a great place to watch a baseball game, certainly better than Municipal Stadium. And there isn’t a landlord siphoning concession revenue and the like from the Guardians like there was in the 70’s and 80’s.

And we understand the local television deals for the bigger markets have exploded giving teams in large metropolitan areas more cash to spend, but that shouldn’t affect how much the Guardians can spend.

Various remodeling projects at the ballpark don’t allow the Guardians to draw three million fans anymore. The most they can do if they sellout every game would be a little over 2.8 million. 

The conditions are very different from when we grew up with the baseball team in Cleveland, but still, all we seem to discuss is keeping the payroll low. The franchise still has to trade its best players when the time comes for free agency. Only Jose Ramirez stayed, but he left money on the table to do so.

Like it or not, that’s the reputation the Guardians have nationally. It’s why every very good player that plays here is involved in rumors by the national media. 

The more things change, the more it has stayed the same, we guess.