Evaluating The Guards First Half

The Cleveland Guardians have the best record in the American League at 58-37, but kind of limped into the All-Star break losing 11 of their last 18 games. While it’s true that many of the other teams with good records have struggled lately as well, that doesn’t mean all of those teams will rebound.

So, while we are not worried about the Guardians right now, we do have a level of concern. For example, the Mariners had a 10 game lead in the AL West a few weeks ago, and have lost 18 of their last 25, and now the lead is just one.

One of the troubling things is this stretch came against AL Central Division teams and a Tampa Bay squad that is treading around the .500 mark.

The offense, which has scored the 4th most runs per game in the AL this year at 4.78, an increase from 4.09 for all of 2023, hasn’t produced, averaging just 3.4 runs per contest in those 18 games. In that stretch, Cleveland has put up nine runs once, eight runs once, and seven runs twice.

Needless to say, that means there were some droughts, and the Guardians scored three runs or less in ten of the last 18 games. That makes it difficult to win.

The offense isn’t a huge concern because a big part of the problem is Steven Kwan and Jose Ramirez aren’t hitting. Over the last 14 days, Kwan is batting .283 (well below his .352 season mark) and Ramirez is hitting .216 with no homers and just one run batted in.

Another all-star, David Fry, is not hitting either, going just 3 for 30 in that span. When one third of your lineup isn’t producing and they are your better offensive players, it’s going to be difficult to put runs on the board.

Steven Vogt has done a very good job in his first year, but let’s face it, things have been going swimmingly so far and this is the first rough patch for the Guardians. What does the skipper and his staff do to get the team righted?

There is an old basketball saying that if you never play your bench, you will never have a bench. We are reminded of this with Vogt’s use of the bullpen this season.

The Guardians need length out of the starting rotation, but Vogt has a quick hook with the starters, sometimes pulling them prematurely. The bullpen is so good it works out, but if you don’t allow the starters to go deeper into games, they are never going to be able to do so.

We would also like to see more stability in the lineup. We get the “beat today’s starter” philosophy, but it seems some of the players who got the Guardians off to their red-hot early pace have fallen by the wayside.

For example, Daniel Schneemann, who got off to a great start after coming up from Columbus is now in the lineup most days despite hitting .185 with a 676 OPS in the last 28 days with 23 strikeouts in 76 plate appearances (30.2% rate). And he’s played some at shortstop (to get his bat in the lineup), and he made two critical errors there over the weekend.

The one rookie who does continue to impress is Angel Martinez, who seems to have a great grasp of the strike zone so far (8 BB, 7 K), and looks very comfortable in the #2 hole. We would find an everyday spot for him right now.

As for Fry, it could be that he is overexposed a bit and needs to go back to a platoon role where he plays mostly against southpaws.

The influx of young players could be due to the front office wanting some extended looks at players before the trading deadline. So, the herd could be thinned when the calendar turns to August.

When the season resumes on Friday, the Guardians should have a bit of a sense of urgency to get things turned around quickly.

On the other hand, Cleveland has 40 of its remaining 67 games at Progressive Field, including 16 of the last 19 contests. That could be a big advantage down the stretch.

Guardians’ Rotation Had Quantity Issues, Now Have Quality Problems

The Cleveland Guardians have had starting pitching issues since pretty much the first week of the regular season. That’s when Shane Bieber went down after his second start in Seattle. After 12 scoreless innings and 20 strikeouts, he was done for the season.

However, until recently, it wasn’t quality that was the issue it was quantity. The starters simply could not pitch deep enough in games to assist a bullpen that although was performing yeoman work, was pitching a lot of innings.

Triston McKenzie, counted on to be one of the rotation’s stalwarts, had a 3.23 ERA after beating Minnesota on May 17th. The issue was he had one start of seven innings and two others were he went 6.2 frames.

The longest he has gone since? 5.1 in back-to-back starts in early June before he was sent to Columbus a couple of weeks ago.

Logan Allen went 6.2 shutout innings in his second start of the year in Seattle, and that was his longest outing of the season. He went six innings four times and was sent to AAA last week.

Staff surprise Ben Lively has gone seven innings once and pitched into the 7th just one other time. He has a 3.59 ERA on the season, so he’s been pretty effective.

However, since Tanner Bibee went six innings on June 29th in Kansas City allowing two runs in beating the Royals, the issue has been quality as well as quantity.

Since that start, a stretch of 13 games, the Guardians’ starters have compiled a 5.69 ERA , with one start of seven innings (by Bibee Wednesday night in Detroit) and two starts where the starter completed six.

In this period was Gavin Williams’ 5.1 IP scoreless outing against the Tigers, the best performance by a starter in the last two weeks. Removing that start from the equation raises the collective ERA by the rotation to an unsightly 6.41.

Teams with that high of an ERA from starters are largely non-competitive. They are behind early in games and it very difficult to come back and win. That the Guardians are 5-7 in these games speaks to the resolve of the players.

The last two games in Tampa have returned to the original problem, which is length by the rotation. Carlos Carrasco and Gavin Williams both pitched five innings, allowing two runs against the Rays, but that meant the relief corps had to cover seven innings because they lost Friday.

We have already seen Nick Sandlin go on the injured list and now Sam Hentges is out with a shoulder issue. It’s not a leap to think the arm problems are due to the overuse of the bullpen.

We know president Chris Antonetti and GM Mike Chernoff are aware of the problems with the rotation and are working the phones for help before the trading deadline.

However, there are a week and a half worth or games before the deadline, and Steven Vogt has to have starters. We would assume Bibee, Williams, and Ben Lively would start the first three games out of the break, but what about after that?

Yes, there is Carrasco, but only the most optimistic Guardians’ fans feel good about that. He’s a fan favorite and his return has been a great story, but he still has a 5.02 ERA. Lefty Doug Nikhazy has been great in AAA in three starts, allowing no runs and six hits in 17 innings. Maybe he gets a shot?

Can the Guardians get enough out of the rotation for the rest of the season in terms of both quality and quantity? That might be the biggest question of the season.

Cavs Still Haven’t Made A Move

Cavaliers’ president of basketball operations Koby Altman has said it a number of times since the season ended with a playoff loss in five games to the Boston Celtics in the Eastern Conference semi-finals.

He has said he wants the Cavs to run it back with the same core players (the so called “Core 4”) for the 2024-25 season with a new coach in Kenny Atkinson. And after the draft and the beginning of the free agent period, he has done just that, stand pat.

Yes, the team’s perennial all-star, Donovan Mitchell, signed a three-year extension last week, meaning he could be here for four more years, but that’s the extent of the club’s transactions so far this summer.

We guess Altman wasn’t using “GM speak” in talking about the current roster.

If that’s going to be the case, it puts a lot of pressure on new coach Kenny Atkinson, because his hiring looks to be the only reason the current roster will get better, outside of the natural growth of young players.

Cleveland likes to talk about the youth of their roster, but really the only player with the potential to make a substantial leap in performance is Evan Mobley, who will be in his fourth year in the NBA. Yes, Darius Garland will turn 25 during the new season, but he has been in the league for five seasons.

How many players improve their performance greatly after they’ve been in the NBA five years?

And Kenny Atkinson is a coach, not a magician. He can put players in situations where they can succeed more, but he’s not going to make Evan Mobley a great outside shooter and he’s not going to make Darius Garland less turnover prone.

Nor is he going to make a backcourt with two smaller guards along with a small forward who is 6’5″ a defensive force.

We understand the Cavs didn’t make the trade for Mitchell until September 1st, so there is plenty of time before training camp starts to improve the roster. However, virtually every team in the league has made moves since the playoffs ended.

Outside of drafting Jaylon Tyson, Cleveland has been idle.

We have seen reports that the organization is waiting for a decision on Isaac Okoro’s contract status and if that’s true, it’s pretty disturbing. Okoro is a very good defender who is limited offensively and he’s only 6’5″.

If he’s holding up potential moves for the Cavs, well…

The current regime seems to be looking at the incremental improvement from non-playoff team to play-in tournament team to lose in the first round to winning in the first round and thinking they should stay the course.

We believe in the philosophy of every move a team makes should be gearing towards winning a championship. Falling short of that goal is a failure. Now, that doesn’t mean you can’t look at progress and think we are getting closer to the goal though.

Perhaps a big move will come in the next couple of weeks. But at the end of the playoffs (and last year for that matter), we have felt the Cavaliers needed to add size at guard and small forward, and also get a solid backup for Jarrett Allen and Mobley.

And remember, Altman sped up the winning process when he traded for Mitchell.

We don’t think they can contend for a title without more size. The front office seems to think differently.

Five All-Stars, But Another Starter Sent To The Minors

The Cleveland Guardians have one of the best records in the American League to date, so it figures they would be well represented on the AL All-Star team.

The Guardians are sending five players. Jose Ramirez and Emmanuel Clase are kind of perennials, with Ramirez making his sixth mid-summer classic, and Clase has now made three in a row.

With his .364 batting average and 956 OPS, Steven Kwan was a shoo-in to be named to the team, and it was a bonus that he was elected as a starter, meaning Cleveland will have two starters as Ramirez will also be in the starting lineup.

Josh Naylor was picked for the first time, although he was probably snubbed a year ago when he was hitting .305 with 11 homers and 64 RBIs at the break. This season he has even more ribbies (3rd in the AL with 66) and has already set a new career high in circuit clouts with 21.

The biggest surprise was David Fry, who started the season as basically a platoon player, but has put up tremendous numbers with a .305 batting average (920 OPS), 8 HR and 33 RBIs. The super utility player came into the 2024 season with 113 big league plate appearances, and has already caught, and played 1B, 3B, LF, and RF for Steven Vogt this season.

Even with the good news regarding the honoring of several players, the Guardians made another move involving their starting rotation over the weekend.

Logan Allen was sent back to AAA after compiling a 5.67 ERA over 18 starts. Allen allowed 100 hits and 35 walks over the 87.1 innings he has thrown this season, and has given up 18 home runs, tied for third most in the AL (FYI, Triston McKenzie is 2nd in this department).

Because of ineffectiveness or injury, the Guardians are now without three of the pitchers who began the year in the starting rotation. Based on that, it has to be considered rather amazing that the Guards sit at the top of the Central Division standings.

Since the All-Star game is next week and teams are off through next Thursday, it will allow both Allen and McKenzie to get an extra start in AAA before they are needed after the San Diego series coming out of the break.

It gives the organization a chance to regroup, so to speak, and the only immediate question will be who starts Thursday afternoon in Detroit, which would be Allen’s turn.

Gavin Williams gave the team 5.1 innings last night, and if Ben Lively and Tanner Bibee can give the team length tonight and tomorrow, this could be the scenario for Thursday.

We could see a combination of Pedro Avila and newcomer Spencer Howard in the series’ finale. Howard, a right-hander, was picked up over the weekend from San Francisco, after posting a 5.63 ERA in 24 innings with the Giants.

For his career, he has a 6.93 ERA in 139 innings, allowing 170 hits in those frames, so let’s just say we are less than enthusiastic about the move. Even worse, in his only AL experience with Texas, he posted an 8.37 ERA.

On June 24th, he did pitch 4.2 innings against the Cubs, not allowing a run and fanning eight, so there’s that.

Let’s hope the organization can find something that works for him, but they may have dealt for him with the idea of getting the team through the all-star break.

Guardians Hit Their First Rough Patch Of The Season

The Cleveland Guardians have hit their first rough patch of the season. Even though they won the series at Progressive Field against the lowly White Sox, starting with the last game of the Baltimore series, they have lost six of their last ten games.

They still have a six-game lead in the AL Central over Minnesota, but it would be nice to regain some momentum heading into the All-Star break, and the Guards look like a team that could really use the four days off.

Under Steven Vogt, the Guardians have been a team all year that has mixed and matched in terms of the starting lineup, looking for the best way to beat that day’s starting pitcher.

And it worked, as Cleveland was baseball’s surprise team.

However, the organization seems to be still in tryout camp mode, shuffling players from Columbus to Cleveland, appearing to search for players like a team floundering in the standings does.

The roster changes aren’t based on a rash of injuries either. The only Cleveland player currently on the injured list is Will Brennan. Since Steven Kwan went on the IL with his hamstring injury, we have seen Kyle Manzardo, Johnathan Rodriguez, Daniel Schneemann, Jhonkensy Noel, Jose Tena, and Angel Martinez getting at bats at the big-league level, all with varying success.

From here, it looks like what we feel is a weakness in the organization, the inability to make decisions on players.

Vogt uses these players at these positions on an everyday basis: 1B Josh Naylor, 2B Andres Gimenez, 3B Jose Ramirez, LF Steven Kwan. With David Fry’s injured elbow, he has become the DH most days, with Bo Naylor and Austin Hedges behind the plate.

Brayan Rocchio is the shortstop most of the time, but we have seen Schneemann there, as well as the organization’s hope, Gabriel Arias, despite Rocchio’s defensive prowess at the games most important defensive spot.

Tyler Freeman did a solid job defensively in centerfield most of the year and it was revealed yesterday he is battling a wrist problem, and while he hasn’t hit like we thought, he’s held his own. His 653 OPS is better than Rocchio’s and comparable to Gimenez.

We get the front office is probably trying to take a look at as many players as they can before the trading deadline at the end of the month, but when the team is in a bit of a downturn, that should be secondary.

As for Arias, at what point is the organization going to realize he just isn’t a good hitter right now? He went 6 for 11 vs. the Orioles, part of a stretch where he went 8 for 19. Since then? 0 for 12 with six strikeouts.

The bullpen is also starting to leak some oil, with the lack of innings from the starting rotation perhaps starting to take its toll, especially with some of the younger arms.

Veteran Scott Barlow has emerged as the most reliable arm out of the ‘pen of late, allowing just two earned runs since June 1st. Cleveland still has four of the top 11 pitchers in the American League in terms of appearances, and that’s concerning.

Don’t get us wrong, every team in the major leagues goes through slumps or downturns, and the Guards are no exception. Again, we are sure Vogt, and the front office are hoping the club rights itself before the Mid-Summer Classic in Texas next week.

And they need to address the starting pitching…

Are Cavs Overrating Their Roster?

For many years after Andrew Berry took over as Browns’ GM, people were noting that he didn’t cut any of the players he drafted. Part of that was when he got the job, the Browns weren’t very good, but it is understandable that if you draft a player, you see the reasons you chose him.

Therefore, you give them the benefit of the doubt.

On the other hand, we have been around coaches who love players from afar, and if and when they get them on their team, all they see are the warts.

So, we understand that Koby Altman has a certain fondness for the players he has brought into the Cavaliers’ organization. But we also think it’s fair to ask if he can evaluate them without bias.

In Kenny Atkinson’s introductory press conference, the new coach referred to coaching “four all-stars”. We bristled at that.

First, only three of the current Cavaliers have made an all-star team: Donovan Mitchell, Darius Garland, and Jarrett Allen. Despite the organization’s wishes for Evan Mobley, who Altman picked with the third overall pick, he has not made one.

And while technically, Garland and Allen have made the team, they made it once, and they made it during the 2021-22 season, which will be three seasons ago when the new season starts.

Garland was comparable to his all-star season the following year, but last year, injuries caused his numbers to drop. And you know how we feel about starting two smaller guards and how it affects things defensively.

Allen was an injury add on in 2022 but was in the discussion to make it to the mid-season classic last year when he averaged a career high in points at 16.5 per game.

Mitchell is an all-star, making the team five times. It may be semantics, but Garland and Allen are players who made an all-star team, we would not consider them perennials.

The elephant in the room is Mobley. We know everyone is high on him, but it is fair to point out his progress has been slow. He averaged 15 points and 8.3 rebounds as a rookie, and although his shooting has improved from 50.8% as a first-year player to 58% last season, his scoring went from 15.0 to 16.2 to 15.7.

Granted, some of that is due to his role (or lack of one) in the offense. The player taken right after him, Scottie Barnes averaged 15.3 a game in his rookie season and 19.9 last year.

What if Mobley is just a real good player, an excellent defender, but not quite an all-star level player?

It wouldn’t mean writing him off, if he can score 18 points, grab 10 rebounds, block a couple of shots in addition to playing excellent defense, that’s something any coach can work with. But it’s not what many expected after his first year.

The Eastern Conference got better since the playoffs ended. Philadelphia signed Paul George. The Knicks swung a trade for Mikal Bridges. Indiana gained valuable playoff experience.

The Cavs need to get better and although we like Kenny Atkinson, we don’t think that’s enough. The off-season has just begun, but hopefully Altman can be truthful with himself about the roster he has built.

That’s a trait the best executives have.

McKenzie Is First Shoe To Fall In Guardians’ Rotation

The first shoe dropped for the Cleveland Guardians’ starting rotation when they sent struggling right-hander Triston McKenzie to Columbus in order to active Gavin Williams from the injured list, where he has been all season.

McKenzie hasn’t seen the fourth inning in any of his last three starts and leads the American League in two dubious categories: Walks allowed, and home runs allowed. If you want to be an effective starting pitcher, you can’t do both of those things.

Williams has been out with an elbow issue suffered in training camp and will finally make his season debut this week. He threw 82 pitches in a rehab start last week, and hopefully he picks up where he left off in his rookie season.

The former first round draft pick pitched to a 3.29 ERA last season, striking out 81 hitters in 82 innings. If he can get to around that form this year, it will be a big boost to a rotation that has been mediocre even though the Guardians have a six-game lead in the AL Central Division.

We say this because the rotation seemingly keeps springing leaks. Logan Allen has been one of the guys who has been in the rotation all year long, but in June he made five starts totaling 24.1 innings (less than five per start for the non-math majors) and had a 5.55 ERA.

Unfortunately, Allen has had three of the worst starts by a Cleveland pitcher this year. He went 2.1 giving up seven runs vs. Detroit, an inning and 2/3rds allowing seven runs against the Rockies and three frames allowing six runs vs. Baltimore.

The confidence in him is low enough that Steven Vogt took him out of Sunday’s game against the Royals after allowing two runs in 4.1 innings because three right-handed hitters were coming up for Kansas City.

That leaves only two starters that Vogt can rely on right now. Tanner Bibee has pitched wonderfully, and it was fun to see him struggling a bit in his last start, but as soon as his teammates got him the lead, he locked it in and wound up with a solid outing.

And Ben Lively has been a godsend. He had a 5.38 ERA with the Reds a year ago, and we pooh-poohed the signing as a roster filler. But he’s given the Guardians at least five innings in all but two of his 13 starts and has a 3.03 ERA to boot. Who knows where the rotation would be without him.

Carlos Carrasco has been a little better his last two starts, but still has a 5.27 ERA and has allowed more hits than innings pitched. Right now, we don’t have any more confidence on days he pitches than we did a month ago.

The front office is obviously trying everything to get a starter and to prove it, they signed Matthew Boyd, a 33-year-old lefty to a free agent contract. Boyd is coming off Tommy John surgery and the hope is he will be able to pitch for the big club in August.

He started 15 games for Detroit last season, compiling a 5.45 ERA, but striking out 73 hitters in 71 innings with 25 walks. His career ERA is 4.94. Could he help down the stretch? Possibly, but we wouldn’t bank on it.

As we said, we know the front office is aware and is working to get some help for the rotation, if only to ease the burden on the bullpen, which continues to be amazing.

As for McKenzie, we figured his issue would have been staying healthy rather than being sent down for ineffectiveness.

Nothing Against Tyson, Cavs Still Need Size

The Cleveland Cavaliers had their first attempt to add some size in the NBA Draft Wednesday night, but chose not to do it, drafting G Jaylon Tyson from California with the 20th overall pick.

We say guard because Tyson is 6’5-1/2″ and we are sorry, but in today’s NBA, that’s a guard. We know Cleveland last season played Max Strus (6’5″) at small forward, but we reiterate, that’s the height of a guard.

This isn’t to denigrate Tyson. We also wanted the Cavaliers to draft more well-rounded players as they have a lot of one-dimensional guys, and Tyson appears to be that. He’s a good shooter, moves well without the ball and is a willing passer, all good traits on the offensive end of the floor.

His scouting report says he’s not fast, nor a leaper, but other players have been able to make themselves decent defensively with less physical attributes.

Cleveland could’ve drafted KyShawn George (6’8″), DaRon Holmes (6’10”), Baylor Scheierman (6’7″), or even Kyle Filipowski (7′) and added needed height.

Instead, Tyson joins the 6’5″/6’6″ collection on the roster, joining Strus, Isaac Okoro, Caris LeVert, Sam Merrill, and the forgotten Ty Jerome.

We understand the off-season has just begun, so there is plenty of time to restructure the roster and clear a few of the players we just mentioned, but again, the first thought we had when the pick was announced was another 6’5″ player.

Starting later today, the free agency period starts in the NBA and so there will be a lot of player movement over the next week. Cavs’ president of basketball operations Koby Altman has said that he would like to keep the “core 4” together and this has been repeated through reports since the season ended.

We will soon find out if this is “GM speak” or not.

We are sure new coach Kenny Atkinson has discussed the roster with his new boss. Does he concur with Altman, that is the big question.

In our humble opinion, and we are not alone, the backcourt of Donovan Mitchell and Darius Garland doesn’t work if Cleveland wants to take another step forward and get to the conference finals next season.

It doesn’t mean they are both talented, it just means they don’t play off of each other. This is hardly news in the NBA. We frequently cite the late 60’s Lakers who had Wilt Chamberlain, Jerry West, and Elgin Baylor. When Baylor was injured, the team took off.

A more recent team would be Milwaukee, where it looks like at least in the first year, that the Bucks were better with Jrue Holiday than with Damian Lillard.

Running it back with the Core 4 (by the way, we hate calling them that) just delays progress another season. Right now, in the East, there is Boston, and then no clear-cut secondary contender.

With the correct moves, Cleveland could become the challenger to the world champion Celtics. We don’t think this can be done without a significant roster change.

We guess what we are really saying is the Cavs need Evan Mobley to take a big jump, and we doubt that can happen with two ball dominant small guards playing 35 minutes per night.

We should find out soon what Altman thinks. And of course, there is still the need for more size.

Let the off-season begin!

30 Years Of Pretty Darn Good Baseball In Cleveland

Readers of this site should be familiar with the fact that our first sports memories occurred in 1965. Yes, we missed the Browns’ title. But the first 30 years of baseball remembrances were filled with mediocrity.

From ’65 to 1993, the most games won by the then-Indians was the 87 victories they achieved in that first season. Just a few years later, in 1968, they came in third in the American League with 86 wins.

Those seasons were followed by what can best be described as crap. There were four seasons where the Tribe finished over .500, and they were barely over the break-even mark with a high of 84 wins in 1986.

The reason for the trip down memory lane was the Mark Shapiro-led Toronto Blue Jays’ visit to Cleveland last weekend, and we realized that since 1994 and the opening of Progressive Field, the Indians/Guardians have largely been contenders for a playoff spot or have played in the post-season.

Starting in 1995 (because ’94 was strike shortened), Cleveland has made the playoffs 13 times and have been under the .500 mark just 10 times.

The reason for the Shapiro connection was the only real “down period” since 1994 occurred when he was running the show here.

That’s kind of unfair because he took over when the teams that opened the new ballpark were aging and he had to do a rebuild, and it was pointed out to us that it was a real fear the franchise would go through another 20-30 year drought, but after three sub .500 seasons from 2002-2004, the Indians were contenders in ’05 and won the division and made it to the AL Championship Series in 2007.

The success couldn’t be sustained and from 2008 until Terry Francona took the helm in 2013, Cleveland broke even the first season and won 80 games in 2011. Otherwise, there were three 90-loss seasons.

Since 2013 though, under the leadership of Chris Antonetti and Mike Chernoff, the Indians/Guardians have been contenders pretty much every single season, winning 92 games in Francona’s first season, and just two losing seasons, one of them an 80-82 campaign in 2021.

In our early years as a baseball fan, the annual baseball magazines would always have a composite World Series’ results standings and Cleveland was always at two wins and one loss. Three appearances, none from 1954 to 1995.

Since then, Cleveland has doubled that total. Unfortunately, the win column has remained the same as all fans of the team are painfully aware. However, if we revert back to our thoughts in 1984, it would have been a dream to see that franchise in one Fall Classic, let alone three of them.

Based on the Guardians’ great start this year, it looks like another playoff spot will happen in 2024, although we take nothing for granted until the magic number is zero.

However, since 1995, the longest stretch for Cleveland baseball without a post-season appearance is five years (2002-2006 and 2008-2012). That’s a far cry from the 41-year absence we dealt with in our youth.

And when you think about it, should all of the city’s professional sports teams aim for that kind of consistency?

Cavs Hire Kenny Atkinson. Our Thoughts

The Cleveland Cavaliers have a new head coach, hiring Golden State assistant Kenny Atkinson to replace J.B. Bickerstaff. We also say we cannot judge a coaching hire until the person actually coaches games, but we like the hire.

Atkinson first got our attention when the Cavs acquired the Nets’ first round pick in the Kyrie Irving deal. The Nets were coming off a 20-62 season under Atkinson in 2016-17, so the Nets’ pick looked to have potential to have a very good chance to finish high in the lottery.

This was a Nets’ team led by DeMarre Carroll, Allen Crabbe, Spencer Dinwiddie. And yes, Caris LeVert and Jarrett Allen were on that squad as well. Brooklyn finished 12th in the Eastern Conference at 28-54 and as we all know by now, Cleveland got the 8th pick in the draft, not the top five selection that was hoped for.

The following season, he guided the Nets to the playoffs with a 42-40 record, losing in a five-game series to Philadelphia, who were led by Joel Embiid, Jimmy Butler, and Ben Simmons (ironically, new Laker coach J.J. Redick was also on the Sixers’ roster).

Brooklyn stole game one on the road behind D’Angelo Russell’s 26 points and LeVert chipped in with 23.

The following season, the Nets and Atkinson parted ways during the truncated pandemic season after he guided Brooklyn to a 28-34 record. Jacque Vaughn finished the year 7-3 and was swept in the first round of the playoffs by Toronto.

We went through this history because from afar Atkinson always seemed to get the most out of his roster, a good trait for any coach.

Atkinson was offered the Charlotte head coaching position following the 2022 season, and he took it, but then had second thoughts and settled for an assistants’ job with Golden State. Based on the mess the Hornets’ organization is, we thought he took the Warriors’ job as the heir apparent to Steve Kerr. Obviously, Kerr is still there.

There have been attempts on other sites to quantify Atkinson’s coaching style and philosophy, but we will not attempt that. The essence of coaching is looking at the talent at hand and getting the most out of the players. So, we will trust that his coaching philosophy with the Cavs will be based on having players do what they do best.

We also like that Atkinson has been a head coach before and then went and worked with another organization, especially a successful one like Golden State (like it or not, they are successful). Good coaches also learn and absorb things by working with players and also observation.

Many successful people learn from doing a job and as they do it more, they get better at doing it.

The new coach likes ball movement on offense, and we would hope he isn’t as dependent on the pick and roll as Bickerstaff was. As far as anything else goes, we will wait until we see the results.

And hopefully, the front office has discussions with Atkinson and what kind of team he wants, and is not saying here’s the roster, win with it. As we have been saying, the Cavs’ problem wasn’t just the coach. The make-up of the roster isn’t that of other contending teams.

We guess we will know more about the next edition of the Cavs in a few weeks.